CHIPPEWA TOWNSHIP TRUSTEES SPECIAL MEETING FEBRUARY 22, 2017

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AT TOWNSHIP HALL 7:00 PM FEBRUARY 22, 17

MEETING CALLED TO ORDER AT 7:00PM WITH PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ROLL CALL: LENNY BROOME-PRESENT, ROBERTA GLEASON-PRESENT, AND DOMINIC OLIVERIO-PRESENT.

SUSPEND THE REGULAR AGENDA
A MOTION TO SUSPEND THE REGULAR AGENDA
MOTION TO PASS BY ROBERTA GLEASON, SECONDED BY DOMINIC OLIVERIO. ROLL CALL: ROBERTA GLEASON-YES, DOMINIC OLIVERIO-YES, AND LENNY BROOME-YES.

CHIPPEWA NATURE PRESERVE
DOMINIC SAID ERIC PANDERA AND I REALLY HAVE BEEN IN TOUCH. HE HAS BEEN WORKING HAND AND HAND DOWN THERE WITH ERIC AND EARL.

EARL KERR SAID IT IS A MESS DOWN THERE AND THAT IS THE NATURE OF LOGGING BUSINESS. ALL THEY DID THEY CUT THEIR TREES AND HAULED THEM OUT. NOW THEY HAVE THE CLEANUP. THE WEATHER IS NOT COOPERATING. THEY CAN’T TAKE IN HEAVY EQUIPMENT; THEY WOULD REALLY MAKE A MESS. THE SKID LOADER UNDER TODAY’S CONDITION WOULD SINK IN. WE ARE WAITING ON THE WEATHER. MOVING FORWARD IT IS A MATTER OF WHEN WE CAN GET THE CREW IN THERE AND TAKE OUT FIREWOOD AND THE INTENT IS DO THE CLEANUP.
DOMINIC ASKED IF THE FIREWOOD CONSISTS OF THE TOPS.
ROB KINDIG ASKED ARE YOU LEAVING SOME FIREWOOD FOR THE SCOUTS?
EARL KERR COMMENTED HE CAN’T IMAGINE THEM TAKING IT ALL AND THEY WOULD LEAVE SOME OF IT.

ERIC PANDERA SAID OUR DISCUSSION AT THE LAST MEETING WAS TO BUILD A LEAN-TO WHERE THEY CAN STACK AND KEEP IT DRY.
EARL SAID ERIC HAS VOLUNTEER SLATE FOR THE ROOF TO LOOK HISTORIC.

DOMINIC COMMENTED OUR BIGGEST CONCERNS WAS THE MISCOMMUNICATION, IT IS DONE NOW AND IT IS WHAT IT IS DOWN THERE. SO, I GUESS WE KEEP MOVING FORWARD. QUANTUM IS GOING TO COME IN TAKE CARE OF THE TOPS, RUTS, AND THE OTHER TYPES OF DEBRIS. IS THAT GOING TO A FALL ON THE PRESERVE?
EARL COMMENTED THEY HAVE TO BE REQUIRED TO CLEAN IT ALL. THE WHOLE CREEK BED, THE WHOLE MILL RACE, AND REMOVE ANYTHING THEY LAID ON THE GROUND. AREA OF THE TRAILS THEY HAVE TO GET IT ALL. TREE TOPS AND THE DEBRIS THEY WILL MOVE TO THE EDGE OF THE FOREST. THE OTHER SIDE OF CREEK THEY WILL MOVE IT OUT OF THE AWAY.
LENNY ASKED THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO DO THE CLEAN UP, WILL IT BE THE CONTRACTORS THAT CUT IT.

EARL SAID THAT AT ONE POINT I THOUGHT IT WAS. NORM TELLS ME HE HAS ANOTHER CONTRACTOR WILL COME UP.
THE CONTRACTOR IS GOING TO TAKE THE FIREWOOD OUT AND NORM AND HIS CREW WILL COME AND CLEAN THINGS UP.
LENNY COMMENTED WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THAT I MIGHT BELIEVE THE CONTRACTOR IS GOING TO DO WHAT HE SAID HE IS GOING TO DO ON THIS PART OF THE CONTRACT SINCE HE BOTCHED THE LAST PART OF THE CONTRACT UP.
EARL SAID DON’T BLAME THE CONTRACTOR BLAME ME.
LENNY SAID NO, I DON’T BLAME YOU EARL, BECAUSE THE

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CONTRACTOR HAD A CONTRACT AND IT SAID IN THE PARAGRAPH, THERE SUPPOSE BE FOUR INCHES OF FROST OR PROPERLY DRIED GROUND BEFORE HE MOVED IN. WHAT EARL TOLD ME ON WEDNESDAY OF THAT
WEEK, YOU WERE GOING DO TOPS ONLY ON THURSDAY AND FOOT
TRAFFIC ONLY WITH CHAIN SAWS.
I SAID I WOULD TELL THE TRUSTEES TONIGHT WHICH WAS WEDNESDAY AT OUR LAST MEETING.
THAT IS WHAT I TOLD THE TRUSTEES THERE WAS NO MENTION OF TRAFFIC, OF DRAGGING LOGS OR HEAVY EQUIPMENT TO COME IN. YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT IT AND THE GROUND WASN’T FROZE, I DON’T CARE IF IT GETS ZERO TONIGHT IT WON’T BE FROZE ENOUGH.
THE NEXT COMMUNICATION THEN, WAS FRIDAY MORNING WHEN PEOPLE WERE CALLING AND SAID THEY ARE LOGGING. WELL LET THEM GO NOW, BUT IT DEFINITELY WAS A BREECH OF THE CONTRACT.
EARL STATED BLAME ME. THURSDAY MORNING I HAD ANOTHER MEETING BY THE TIME, I GOT DOWN THERE AND THEY WERE ALREADY DOING TWO THINGS, YOU KNOW THEY WERE AUTHORIZE TO DO, TO TAKE DOWN TREES AND ONLY TAKE THE BULLDOZER AND TO CLEAR SKID TRAILS. THOSE WERE THE ONLY TWO THINGS THEY WERE ALLOW TO DO. THEY WERE DOING THAT WHEN I GOT THERE THURSDAY MORNING. THEN THE BULLDOZER GONE WAY UP IN THE WOODS BY THAT TIME. WE WALKED BACK THE TRAILS OF THE MILL AND AT THAT POINT, IT WAS NOT MUDDY. HE ASKED ME IF IT WAS DRY ENOUGH TO DRAG LOGS. IF I SAID NO, I THOUGHT I MIGHT BE BREECHING THE CONTRACT. I CALLED JOEL AND DESCRIBE THE TRAIL AND JOEL’S ADVICE TO LET THEM TO DRAG A FEW LOGS ON THE TRAIL THAT WAS ALREADY CLEAR. I HAD ANOTHER APPOINTMENT SO, I TOLD THE CREW CHIEF TO DRAG A FEW LOGS AND IF YOU’RE LEAVING RUTS, YOU STOP DRAGGING LOGS. WHEN I CAME BACK, THEY WERE STILL DRAGGING LOGS AND THEY WEREN’T MAKING RUTS. THE GROUND WAS HOLDING THE LOGS. SO, I DIDN’T STOP THEM AT THAT POINT. I CALLED JOEL, TOLD HIM YOU HAD BETTER COME UP HERE AND TAKE A LOOK. HE WAS PERFECTLY SATISFIED THEY WERE NOT TEARING THINGS UP MORE THAN… IT WAS IN HIS OPINION REASONABLY DRY.

ROBERTA GLEASON COMMENTED I DISAGREE WITH THAT. I WAS DOWN THERE ON FRIDAY, WHEN I WENT AND STEP TO THE SIDE MY FEET GOT WET. SO, IT WAS NOT DRY DOWN THERE. THAT IS JUST THE WAY I FEEL ABOUT IT. I WAS IN THE SNOW AND MY FEET WERE WET.

ROB KINDIG STATED I LIVE RIGHT ABOVE IT AND THERE WAS DARK BLACK DIRT EVERYWHERE THE CAT WENT. IT MEANT THERE WAS A LOT OF MOISTURE THERE. I DIDN’T WALK DOWN TO SEE HOW MUDDY IT WAS BUT YOU CAN SEE THE CAT WAS LEAVING RUTS EVERYWHERE IT WENT.

LENNY SAID THERE IS THE EXPLANATION FOR HOW IT HAPPENED.

EARL SAID IT IS ON ME IT REALLY IS. BETWEEN JOEL AND ME, WE AUTHORIZED THEM. SO, IT DIDN’T MEET ANYBODY EXPECTATIONS. THEY KNEW IT WAS GOING TO GET WARM ON SATURDAY. SO, THEY ONLY HAD TWO DAYS TO WORK WITH AND THEY SAID THERE IS NO WAY THEY COULD GET ALL THE LOGS OUT, IF THEY DIDN’T START ON THURSDAY. THAT IS ONE OF THE ISSUES.

ROBERTA ASKED DID THEY CUT SATURDAY. I KNOW THEY WERE DOWN THERE.

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EARL SAID YES, THEY WERE OVER ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CREEK SATURDAY AND THEY DID FINISH THAT ON SATURDAY MORNING. BECAUSE BY NOON ON SATURDAY EVERYTHING WAS GOING TO MUSH.

LENNY STATED SO, TO FINISH THE PROJECT AND BRING THE PROJECT TO CONCLUSION. WE ARE GOING TO DEPEND ON THIS CONTRACTOR TO DO WHAT HE SAID. WE HAVE THE PARK CLOSED UNTIL APRIL 1.
ROBERTA ASKED IF THAT IS LONG ENOUGH.
LENNY STATED PROBABLY NOT BUT THE CONTRACTOR SAID IT IS. WHO KNOWS?
EARL SAID IT IS GOING TO DEPEND ON THE WEATHER. IF HE CAN GET IN THERE ANYTIME DURING THE MONTH OF MARCH.
ODDLY ENOUGH, THEY WERE ABLE TO LOG IN TWO DAYS BUT IT SAID IT WOULD TAKE FOUR GOOD DAYS FOR CLEANUP.
HE NEEDS FOUR GOOD DAYS WHEN HE CAN GET IN THERE. WHEN IT IS EITHER FROZEN AND/OR DRY. GOOD LUCK THIS MARCH WE HAVE SEEN THE WEATHER.

LENNY SAID SO, ABSOLUTELY THE TREETOPS ARE GOING TO COME OUT OF THERE. WE MIGHT LEAVE LITTLE FIREWOOD AS MR. KINDIG SUGGESTED FOR THE SCOUTS TO CUT WHEN THEY ARE THERE.
ROB KINDIG HE IS RIGHT THOUGH, I FORGOT MR. MACDONALD IS ON THE BOARD NOW. HE IS PROBABLY BETTER OFF THAN I AM
EARL SAID WE WOULD LEAVE THAT TO MIKE.
DOMINIC STATED ERIC AND MYSELF COMMUNICATED, HE KIND OF VOICE JUST BRIEFLY, SO ONCE THE CONTRACTOR IS OUT OF THERE. DID YOU GUYS MET AS A BOARD AND KIND OF CAME UP WITH SOME… SO, I DON’T KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT WHAT IS GOING TO BE GONE. I AM SURE YOU DON’T EITHER. THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO TAKE THE MAJORITY OF IT. THAT IS WHY THEY PUT UP THE BOND. IF THERE IS WHATEVER LEFTOVER, AS A BOARD WHAT STEPS ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO TAKE, ONCE THEY ARE GONE.
EARL ASKED WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO IF WERE NOT SATISFIED WITH HOW CLEAN HE LEAVES IT?
MR. PANDERA OBVIOUSLY ALL OF US WANT THE PLACE TO LOOK BETTER THAN IT WAS. WE WILL DO WHAT WE HAVE TO GET THINGS BACK IN ORDER. BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THAT’S NOT SUPPOSE TO BE OUR RESPONSIBILITY AND YOU SAID VERY SAFELY LENNY WERE SUPPOSE TO TRUST THIS GUY COME IN DO…
LENNY STATED YOU HAVE TO PUT YOURSELF IN OUR SHOES. THIS IS THE WAY BOARD FEELS AS WE WERE LET DOWN AND STOMP ON ALL OVER AND LEFT OUT TO DRY. WE DON’T TRUST PROBABLY ANYTHING THE CONTRACTOR SAID, AT THIS POINT AND TIME. THAT IS THE NATURE OF ME. I CAN’T STOP THE PROJECT.
MR. PANDERA COMMENTED I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE FUTURE AS WELL. LET’S SEE IF THE NEXT STEP GOES AS SAID. THE BOY SCOUTS AND THEY ARE ANXIOUS GET IN TO REDO THE TRAILS, OTHER PROJECTS AND CREATE THE PLACE BETTER THAN IT WAS. WE ARE STILL COMMITTED TO THAT. BUT WE DON’T WANT IT TO TAKE A YEAR AND HALF.
EARL STATED AS YOU FOLKS ARE AWARE THE $16,800. + $1,000.00 BOND THAT HE’S PAID US. WE TOLD YOU GUYS WE WOULD WORK WITH YOU IN THE TERMS OF SPENDING THE MONEY. IF WERE NOT HAPPY WITH WHAT’S DONE DOWN THERE AND IF WERE NOT HAPPY WITH THAT AND THEN WE SPEND SOME OF THAT MONEY TO HAVE IT CLEANED UP.
LENNY STATED THE CONTRACT OF $16,800.00 ALREADY DELIVERED. I THINK THE CONTRACT $16,800. IS THAT WE WILL SPEND THAT AS A TEAM AND EITHER PARTY ON THE TEAM SAID NO, THAT IT WILL NOT BE SPENT. IS THAT WHAT THE CONTRACT SAID? SO WERE ALL CLEAR HERE BECAUSE WE WEREN’T CLEAR THREE WEEKS AGO.

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MR. PANDERA STATED I DON’T THINK ANY OF IT SHOULD BE TOUCHED FOR CLEANED UP. IN MY MINE $16,800. IF WE HAD TO SPEND THE BOND.
ROBERTA ASKED WHAT HAPPENS IF IT GOES MORE THAN $1,000.00?
EARL STATED IF COST MORE THAN $1,000. THAN I WOULD BE WILLING DIP IN THE $16,800.

DOMINIC STATED IT’S DONE AND THE COMMUNICATION IS A LOT BETTER. GETTING THE PARK BACK WAY IT WAS.

ED DAVIDSON ASKED HOW MANY DEAD TREES WERE COMING OUT AND HOW MANY IN EXCHANGE OF THE GOOD. I WALKED OVER THERE BY THE DAM WAS AND IT IS A FOOTBALL FIELD. THERE ARE NO TREES LEFT AT ALL. I WALKED THE WHOLE THING IT IS A MUD HOLE.
EARL STATED JOEL WENT DOWN THERE AND CHECK AND GAVE THE FULL COUNT. THEY WERE AUTHORIZED BY THE CONTRACT TO TAKE OUT 99 TREES AND THEY TOOK OUT 97. THE TWO THEY TOOK OUT, THEY WEREN’T SUPPOSE TO TAKE OUT AND THEY WERE HIT BY FALLING TREES. THEY OWE US MONEY FOR THE TWO ADDITIONAL TREES. THEY LEFT FOUR THEY WERE TO TAKE OUT. THE TWO WERE ASH AND TWO WERE CHERRY.

RACHEL KINDIG COMMENTED I WANT TO EXPLAIN WHAT I WANT TO DO FOR THE MIRACLE AWARD. I AM GOING TO DO IS REPLANT THE TREES THAT YOU GUYS WANT TO PUT BACK IN THERE. SO, YOU CAN HAVE THE NATURAL FOREST BACK. THE PROJECT ENTAILS 80 HOURS OF SERVICE. I HAVE TO HAVE A GROUP OF FIVE PEOPLE TO HELP THAT ARE NON-SCOUTS. THAT I FIGURE BY REPLANTING THESE TREES IT WILL BE PUT BACK AND ALLOW THEM TO GROW IN THE NATURAL SETTING.
ROBERTA ASKED WHAT KIND OF TREES ARE YOU THINKING OF.
RACHEL SAID WHAT THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY WANT AND HOW MANY THEY WANT AND PUT BACK IN PLACE.
EARL STATED WE DID TALK ABOUT IT AT OUR LAST MEETING AND WE WILL ASK JOEL.
MARY MERTIC, ROB KINDIG AND EARL KERR MADE SEVERAL COMMENTS.

LENNY SAID IT JUST HAPPENED HERE, YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE THIRD PARTY OUT. RACHEL IS TALKING ABOUT BRINGING THE FOREST BACK AND IT WAS ALL DONE ALL OVER THIS TABLES HEAD. WE’RE SUPPOSED TO BE THE ONES IN CHARGE OF THE PARK. THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH THE COMMUNICATION HERE AND IT SHOWED UP HERE TONIGHT. ALL I DID WAS KEEP QUIET AND YOU GUYS DID IT TO ME RIGHT HERE, YOU THREW ME RIGHT UNDER THE BUS AGAIN.
RACHEL CAN PLANT HER TREES. FAR AS I AM CONCERNED, THE OTHER TWO TRUSTEES CAN SPEAK THEIR OWN MIND. I AM VERY OPENED TO GETTING PEOPLE INVOLVED. WHAT WE SHOULD PLANT AND WHERE THEY SHOULD BE PLANTED.
I THINK THE DECISION SINCE WE RENT THE PARK IT SHOULD BE AT THIS TABLE.
MARY SAID SHE IS HERE
LENNY STATED DID YOU HEAR THE CONVERSATION MARY.
MARY SAID YEA.
LENNY STATED IT WAS ALL DONE…
MARY SAID WE HAD A CONVERSATION BUT ALSO, SHE IS HERE
LENNY STATED MARY, WHAT IS SAID YOU GUYS WENT THROUGH THAT THE WHOLE CONVERSATION AND NOBODY ASKED THE TRUSTEES OPINION.
MARY SAID I THINK WE ARE DOING IT NOW.

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LENNY SAID I THINK I BROUGHT IT TO YOUR ATTENTION AND WE ARE DOING NOW.
EARL, MARY AND LENNY MADE COMMENTS.
LENNY STATED I AM TELLING YOU, THE COMMUNICATION HERE IS NOT WELL. THE CONTRACT IS IN JEOPARDY RIGHT NOW WITH THE TOWNSHIP. WE ARE GOING TO SEE HOW THIS CLEANUP GOES AND WE WILL COME BACK TO THE TABLE. WERE VERY OPEN TO EVERYTHING AND WERE VERY WILLING TO LISTEN TO EVERYTHING. WE ARE VERY UNHAPPY AT THIS POINT AND TIME.
MARY SAID IF YOU WERE AT OUR MEETING SATURDAY. WE DISCUSSED THAT WE NEED TO TAKE THIS TO THE TRUSTEES.
LENNY, DOMINIC, MARY AND EARL MADE SEVERAL COMMENTS.

LENNY SAID THAT IS A GREAT PROJECT BY THE WAY. SO, DO THE TREES ALL HAVE TO BE PURCHASE?
RACHEL COMMENTED I WILL TRY TO GET SOME DONATED BUT FOR WHAT I CAN’T GET DONATED, I WILL DO FUNDRAISERS TO GET THE MONEY TO PURCHASE.
ROB, EARL, LENNY, MARY AND ERIC MADE COMMENTS.

ERIC PANDERA ASKED DOMINIC, WOULD US SENDING THE MINUTES TO YOU.
LENNY SUGGESTED IF YOU WOULD EMAIL THE MINUTES TO DARLENE AND SHE WILL MAKE SURE THE TRUSTEES GET THE MINUTES.
WALT MACINTOSH SAID DOMINIC AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS A LOT. I HAVE AN EAGLE SCOUT WHO WANTS TO DO THE FENCE.
WHEN RACHEL IS READY COME TO OUR BOARD AND WE GIVE THEM AUTHORIZATION. WE SEND THEM TO THE TRUSTEES TO GET YOUR APPROVAL.

ERIC PANDERA STATED I AM NOT FULLY THINKING WHAT ASPECTS OF THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY FUNCTIONS DOWN THERE. WHAT DETAILS YOU GUYS WANT?
LENNY SAID THE WAY THIS TABLE LOOKS AT IT AS FAR AS LENNY IS CONCERN. THE MILL AND EVERYTHING ATTACHED TO THE BUILDING, WE KEEP OUR HANDS OFF BUT ALL OF THE GROUNDS AND EVERYTHING ELSE WE THOUGHT WE WERE IN CONTROL OF THAT.
MARY SAID ALL THE BUILDINGS ARE THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY, EXCEPT THE PAVILION.
LENNY SAID IF YOU ARE GOING TO BUILD A NEW STRUCTURE. YES, COME TO US.
LENNY, EARL, MARY, MAC, ROB AND ERIC MADE OTHER COMMENTS.

PUBLIC COMMENT: NO OTHER COMMENTS

MOTION TO ADJOURN
MOTION TO PASS BY ROBERTA GLEASON, SECONDED BY DOMINIC OLIVERIO. ROLL CALL: ROBERTA GLEASON-YES, DOMINIC OLIVERIO-YES, AND LENNY BROOME-YES.

MEETING ADJOURNED AT 7:48 PM
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